Score one for the Constitution

[P1tchblack]

School Stops Saying ‘God Bless America†after Atheists Complain

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A Pennsylvania school stopped saying “God Bless America” over the loudspeaker after a parent complained and an organization comprised of atheists and agnostics got involved. 
Sabold Elementary School in Springfield, Pa., had a custom of allowing users of the loudspeaker to say “God Bless America” after the morning Pledge of Allegiance. 
The Freedom From Religion Foundation, acting on a complaint from a parent, wrote the superintendent March 25 and argued the action was unconstitutional. 

“The repeated recitation of a religious message in the school setting violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits public schools from advancing, supporting or promoting religion,” FFRF attorney Christopher Line wrote. “‘God Bless America†is a prayer. The song that the phrase originates from begins, ‘As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.†A prayer hosted by a publicly supported school does not pass constitutional muster.” 

An FFRF press release said saying the phrase “sends a message to its students that the school is endorsing and compelling belief in God.”
The school ended the practice. 

“After the school districtâ€s receipt of your letter, Sabold Elementary School has ceased its practice of announcing the slogan ‘God Bless America†over the loudspeaker immediately following the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance,” Mark Sereni, an attorney for the school district, wrote FFRF April 17. “None of the schools in the school district currently engage in this practice.” 

https://www.christianheadlines.com/contr...plain.html

[zigbee]

Some people will bitch about anything.

[ScarletHayes]

How on earth is this pro constitution?  How on earth is that promoting a certain religion?  If anything, this is anti first amendment.  Anti constitution.  It's public property!  How do you lose your 1st amendment rights because of some atheist bitch?  You either believe in the first amendment or you don't.  This is lunacy.  And people wonder why people are yanking their kids out of public schools?  It's one thing after another.  You can show films on pedarists to 14 year olds, but you can't say God Bless America????  

[P1tchblack]

How on earth is this pro constitution?  How on earth is that promoting a certain religion?  If anything, this is anti first amendment.  Anti constitution.  It's public property!  How do you lose your 1st amendment rights because of some atheist bitch?  You either believe in the first amendment or you don't.  This is lunacy.  And people wonder why people are yanking their kids out of public schools?  It's one thing after another.  You can show films on pedarists to 14 year olds, but you can't say God Bless America????  

The school can't lead the students in saying "God Bless America".  If the kids, on their own time and on their own initiative, want to say it; go ahead.  If they want to chant "God bless america" at recess or between classes there shouldn't be an issue.

[Alabuckeye]

yay atheists. Remove God from everything. It's working so well for you and our society.

[P1tchblack]

yay atheists.  Remove God from everything.  It's working so well for you and our society.

Taking religion out of school, especially elementary, definitely hurts the indoctrination process that Christian churches rely on to keep new member$ coming in.

[BoyGenius]

yay atheists.  Remove God from everything.  It's working so well for you and our society.

Taking religion out of school, especially elementary, definitely hurts the indoctrination process that Christian churches rely on to keep new member$ coming in.

Christianity indoctrinates its followers? How so?

[Alabuckeye]

yay atheists.  Remove God from everything.  It's working so well for you and our society.

Taking religion out of school, especially elementary, definitely hurts the indoctrination process that Christian churches rely on to keep new member$ coming in.

whatever.  who started the schools in the first place?  Oh yeah, churches.  

welcome to the post-Christian culture.  It's a disaster.

[P1tchblack]

yay atheists.  Remove God from everything.  It's working so well for you and our society.

Taking religion out of school, especially elementary, definitely hurts the indoctrination process that Christian churches rely on to keep new member$ coming in.

Christianity indoctrinates its followers? How so?

The more prominent religion is in your life, at an early age, the more likely you are to be religious later in life.  Parents have the biggest impact, but schools are a tool to aid in the process.

[ScarletHayes]

How on earth is this pro constitution?  How on earth is that promoting a certain religion?  If anything, this is anti first amendment.  Anti constitution.  It's public property!  How do you lose your 1st amendment rights because of some atheist bitch?  You either believe in the first amendment or you don't.  This is lunacy.  And people wonder why people are yanking their kids out of public schools?  It's one thing after another.  You can show films on pedarists to 14 year olds, but you can't say God Bless America????  

The school can't lead the students in saying "God Bless America".  If the kids, on their own time and on their own initiative, want to say it; go ahead.  If they want to chant "God bless america" at recess or between classes there shouldn't be an issue.

How is a school official saying God Bless America some indication of the state establishing or promoting a specific religion?  How does one make the leap to that comnclusion?  It's nonsense.

[P1tchblack]

How on earth is this pro constitution?  How on earth is that promoting a certain religion?  If anything, this is anti first amendment.  Anti constitution.  It's public property!  How do you lose your 1st amendment rights because of some atheist bitch?  You either believe in the first amendment or you don't.  This is lunacy.  And people wonder why people are yanking their kids out of public schools?  It's one thing after another.  You can show films on pedarists to 14 year olds, but you can't say God Bless America????  

The school can't lead the students in saying "God Bless America".  If the kids, on their own time and on their own initiative, want to say it; go ahead.  If they want to chant "God bless america" at recess or between classes there shouldn't be an issue.

How is a school official saying God Bless America some indication of the state establishing or promoting a specific religion?  How does one make the leap to that comnclusion?  It's nonsense.

A school/government official can't endorse religion.  Football coaches can't lead their teams in prayer.  Teachers can't hang crosses in their rooms.

[ScarletHayes]

Based on what?  Tell me where to find that in the constitution.  Never mind that merely saying GBA is not in any way shape or form promoting one religion over another.

[Alabuckeye]

Based on what?  Tell me where to find that in the constitution.

he can't.  speaking of indoctrination, he's been indoctrinated that it's there....but it isn't.

[BoyGenius]

Christianity indoctrinates its followers? How so?

The more prominent religion is in your life, at an early age, the more likely you are to be religious later in life.  Parents have the biggest impact, but schools are a tool to aid in the process.

How are Christians indoctrinated into the religion?
EDIT: Or, what traits of indoctrination do you see in Christianity?

[TcSoup]

Since Pitch is so against it.

Maybe he should split up all his dirty indoctrinating money amongst all here on the board.