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What do you all see as the likely outcome of Trump's Iran policy?
I can't see how Trump pulling us out of the deal is helping anything.
Is the outcome going to be an Iran that is even closer to having nukes? That's how it looks to me.
Is it that we finally force Iran to stop supporting terrorism and war? That doesn't seem likely.
Is it regime change? Again, it doesn't seem likely.
Is it war against Iran, like some of his advisors want? I don't sense any appetite for this from the President or the people.
What is the end game?
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Is Iran desirous of having nuclear weapons? Did they have a program aimed at that prior to the agreement?
If they didn't, what did the agreement do?
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(06-17-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: What do you all see as the likely outcome of Trump's Iran policy?
I can't see how Trump pulling us out of the deal is helping anything.
Is the outcome going to be an Iran that is even closer to having nukes? That's how it looks to me.
Is it that we finally force Iran to stop supporting terrorism and war? That doesn't seem likely.
Is it regime change? Again, it doesn't seem likely.
Is it war against Iran, like some of his advisors want? I don't sense any appetite for this from the President or the people.
What is the end game? The end game is to get Iran to be a member of the world community that doesn't sponsor terror, detonate mines on ships, take sailors hostage, or try and develop nukes...has anyone succeeded with them ever?
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(06-17-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: What do you all see as the likely outcome of Trump's Iran policy?
I can't see how Trump pulling us out of the deal is helping anything.
Is the outcome going to be an Iran that is even closer to having nukes? That's how it looks to me.
Is it that we finally force Iran to stop supporting terrorism and war? That doesn't seem likely.
Is it regime change? Again, it doesn't seem likely.
Is it war against Iran, like some of his advisors want? I don't sense any appetite for this from the President or the people.
What is the end game?
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What was the Iranian nuclear deal?
The Iran nuclear deal was [b]an agreement between the Islamic Republic and a group of world powers aimed at scrapping the Middle Eastern country's nuclear weapons programme[/b]. The deal saw Iran agree to eliminate its stockpile of medium-enriched uranium by 98 per cent
Iran has 10x the amount of enriched uranium now that what they did in 2015. I guess that treaty worked out well didn't it!
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Read the Wolfowitz Documents. It clearly defines the entire plan for the ME. It went in effect when the former Soviet Union collapsed.
A list of counties in the plan. (April 1990). Recognize any?
Iraq
Egypt
Libya
Yemen
Syria
Iran
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We have an ongoing thread on Iran. You should have posted your question there.
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(06-17-2019, 11:58 AM)zigbee Wrote: (06-17-2019, 11:38 AM)JamesWright Wrote: What do you all see as the likely outcome of Trump's Iran policy?
I can't see how Trump pulling us out of the deal is helping anything.
Is the outcome going to be an Iran that is even closer to having nukes? That's how it looks to me.
Is it that we finally force Iran to stop supporting terrorism and war? That doesn't seem likely.
Is it regime change? Again, it doesn't seem likely.
Is it war against Iran, like some of his advisors want? I don't sense any appetite for this from the President or the people.
What is the end game? The end game is to get Iran to be a member of the world community that doesn't sponsor terror, detonate mines on ships, take sailors hostage, or try and develop nukes...has anyone succeeded with them ever?
Amen.
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Hit and run........I wish we could get some Liberals in here that would discuss......
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The "deal". LOL. Here take your money back and use it for terrorism and we'll look the other way on that and your nuclear program. Carteresque.Â
The plan seems to be to continue pressure until real results are achieved. If no results continue pressure. I don't know of a third way but this is far better than the Kerry/Obama joke. They make Neville Chamberlain look good.
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OK.....I'll give an answer to the question What was Trump's Endgame for Iran?
I believe that the Trump administration felt that the Iran deal pushed by Kerry and agreed to by the Obama administration placed constraints on US policy regarding Iran, and, while, on paper, placed constraints on Iran as well, they were not firm enough nor were they trackable enough to be adequately enforced. As a result, all the agreement did was provide cover for Iran to say to the world "We are abiding by this agreement" all the while they continued their practices of enriching uranium and being a state sponsor of terror. If we remained in the agreement, we were bound by it and could not adequately address the issues that Iran causes.
I have no problem with the Trump Administration removing us from this weak policy that Obama/Kerry got us into. And, if rumors are true, we have some Obama Administration officials that should be tried with the Logan Act for circumventing current administration policy to try to keep that Obama/Kerry agreement en force. Shame on them and they should be punished.
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(06-17-2019, 08:49 PM)Brutus Buckeye Wrote: James can play this board like a rusty trombone.
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(06-17-2019, 12:58 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Hit and run........I wish we could get some Liberals in here that would discuss...... Discuss?  With this lot?
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(06-18-2019, 05:47 AM)somenole Wrote: (06-17-2019, 12:58 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Hit and run........I wish we could get some Liberals in here that would discuss...... Discuss?  With this lot? Why bring up a question that is intended to inflame and not stay to discuss? Why bring up a question that had he researched (obviously too lazy to use google) he would understand the intentions of Trump's intentions and the shortcomings (malfeasance) of the Obama and Kerry agreement. Obvious troll.
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