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Does Iran really want armed conflict?
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-revol...-of-hormuz
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#2
I heard an analysis that made sense shortly after Iran shot down our drone. I don't remember who said it, but they basically said that Iran is trying to change the status quo. Perhaps Iran believes that they can instigate some sort of a crisis that will result in a better situation than what they have currently.
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No, Iran does not want an all out armed conflict w/ the US. They want to use their proxies-Hezbollah, crazies in Afghanistan, the Iraqi government, the Houthis in Yemen to annoy, antagonize, and leverage their position in the ME against Israel and Saudi Arabia-whom they hate equally and are battling for hegemony with. They hate Israel b/c they are Jews and SA b/c they are Sunnis.
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#4
Looking for a couple more pallets of cash to behave themselves? I think they're about to step on their johnson.
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(07-19-2019, 07:53 PM)stxbuck Wrote: No, Iran does not want an all out armed conflict w/ the US. They want to use their proxies-Hezbollah, crazies in Afghanistan, the Iraqi government, the Houthis in Yemen to annoy, antagonize, and leverage their position in the ME against Israel and Saudi Arabia-whom they hate equally and are battling for hegemony with. They hate Israel b/c they are Jews and SA b/c they are Sunnis.
Then what is the end game?  Annoy?  why?  Antagonize?  Why?  Leverage to gain what?
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(07-19-2019, 08:03 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(07-19-2019, 07:53 PM)stxbuck Wrote: No, Iran does not want an all out armed conflict w/ the US. They want to use their proxies-Hezbollah, crazies in Afghanistan, the Iraqi government, the Houthis in Yemen to annoy, antagonize, and leverage their position in the ME against Israel and Saudi Arabia-whom they hate equally and are battling for hegemony with. They hate Israel b/c they are Jews and SA b/c they are Sunnis.
Then what is the end game?  Annoy?  why?  Antagonize?  Why?  Leverage to gain what?

That is the unknown... what are they hoping to accomplish?
The price of oil is below the price when they vandalized tankers and shot down the US drone.
One has to question if Kerry is continuing to talk with Iran.
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(07-19-2019, 08:03 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(07-19-2019, 07:53 PM)stxbuck Wrote: No, Iran does not want an all out armed conflict w/ the US. They want to use their proxies-Hezbollah, crazies in Afghanistan, the Iraqi government, the Houthis in Yemen to annoy, antagonize, and leverage their position in the ME against Israel and Saudi Arabia-whom they hate equally and are battling for hegemony with. They hate Israel b/c they are Jews and SA b/c they are Sunnis.
Then what is the end game?  Annoy?  why?  Antagonize?  Why?  Leverage to gain what?
Kill the Israelis. Be King Poobahs of the Muslims-Sunnis and Shiâ€ites have hated each other since the religion was invented-they still take that fundamentalist ***** seriously in the ME. Itâ€s like the Cold War between the US and USSR-each side will financially support both friendly governments and proxy rebel/terrorist groups that toe their particular line.
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#8
Those idiots in Iran and Iraq (terrorists) and the muslim terrorists in the ME are so freaking dumb.  That area could be booming with jobs and tourism but they'd rather have people living under the strain of domination and religious stupidity.
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#9
One wonders if Putin isn't pulling the strings here.  He needs those oil prices up.  Plus maybe he wants to see how far Cheeto (and the west in general) will go when pushed.
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#10
The sanctions are hurting them I suspect. The Revolutionary Guard may not be under "central" control.

They have a strategy developed to attack major surface vessels with so many small boats even a well armed naval ship might be unable to resist the attack. Perhaps they would like to try that out in real life? Imagine they sank or captured a US destroyer. I don't know why they would want to try that exactly.
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#11
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/04/uk/ta...index.html

Tit for tat. Plus they want the other signers to honor The JCPOA, against the US.
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#12
https://politics.theonion.com/bleeding-j...1834847900

WASHINGTON—Bursting through the Congressional chamber doors while moaning and clutching his shoulder, John Bolton reportedly stumbled into the Capitol building Friday claiming that heâ€d been shot by Iran. “Help, help, Iâ€ve just been attacked by a large Middle Eastern country around 636,000 square miles in size,” said the national security advisor, telling those assembled that heâ€d just been minding his own business when an aggressive Islamic Republic had thrown him on the ground and shot him with a long-range missile. “Right after Iran shot me, I heard the nation laugh and say ‘Somebody stop me before I go on a homicidal rampage.†It was acting crazed and irrational, and I could smell enriched uranium coming from one of its urban centers.
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