Female Army Ranger. I call B.S.

[BoyGenius]

Women cannot lead men in combat. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply foolish.

men dont want to be led by a woman, period

That's not the popular feminist trope women have adopted from military combat to CEOs to pastors.

[cincydawg]

Some of my best bosses were female, and some of the worst.

The most harmful was a male though, he really did a lot of damage to the division over two years.

I'd rather have an effective female leader than a dopey male one.

[BoyGenius]

See Pareto Principle.. There is always as exception and outlier... see AJ Hawk as the favorite outlier to rationalize taking a 3* recruits vs 5* recruits.

[cincydawg]

In my life experience, I have not encountered data that suggests women are better, or worse, leaders than men.  This obviously does not include a combat situation.

I'm not sure why that would be markedly different though.

Women often have better endurance than men and are "wired" for childbirth, so they plausibly could react better when exhausted and under stress.  The men I know personally who have been in combat would not care a bit whether their commander was black or female or gay or a robot if it was competent and effective.

[Syncro]

The men I know personally who have been in combat would not care a bit whether their commander was black or female or gay or a robot if it was competent and effective.

The men I know who have been in combat have absolutely no interest in being led by a woman when the ***** hits the fan.

These guys, particularly Rangers/SEALs/etc are generally ALL Alpha males. For better or worse, that does make a difference in how they react to a female in a leadership position (particularly in a combat situation).

This girl who made it through the school will flame out soon enough and this whole thing will blow over, until the next time it comes up

[BoyGenius]

Women are incapable of leading men in combat. Period. To say otherwise is simply wrong. You have never served and those men you know, have never had to decide if they would follow a woman into combat. I'm confident those men wouldn't follow a woman into combat because women are a liability in combat.

[BoyGenius]

The men I know personally who have been in combat would not care a bit whether their commander was black or female or gay or a robot if it was competent and effective.

The men I know who have been in combat have absolutely no interest in being led by a woman when the ***** hits the fan.

These guys, particularly Rangers/SEALs/etc are generally ALL Alpha males.  For better or worse, that does make a difference in how they react to a female in a leadership position (particularly in a combat situation).

This girl who made it through the school will flame out soon enough and this whole thing will blow over, until the next time it comes up

+1... the first woman to lead the ACC F-16 Viper team was removed from her position Monday after two weeks on the job. Men and woman are different... to pretend otherwise is what Disney does.

[cincydawg]

The guys I know were discussing this on line recently.  None of them cared at all, IF the commander was competent.

Now,  maybe they are just saying that on line and would feel differently in reality.  These are all enlisted infantry Marines who saw combat in Iraq, about ten weighed in, so there were 25 or so who didn't comment.  The emphasis was on competence.

I personally would not care, based on my own life experience with male and female leaders.  I'd far rather have a semi-competent female director than a half assed male director, or one who was truly damaging.

[Alabuckeye]

The guys I know were discussing this on line recently.  None of them cared at all, IF the commander was competent.

Now,  maybe they are just saying that on line and would feel differently in reality.  These are all enlisted infantry Marines who saw combat in Iraq, about ten weighed in, so there were 25 or so who didn't comment.  The emphasis was on competence.

I personally would not care, based on my own life experience with male and female leaders.  I'd far rather have a semi-competent female director than a half assed male director, or one who was truly damaging.

How many competent female directors did you have?

I ask because I've had some level of female boss almost my whole career.......it's been a crapshoot, have had 1 very good one, several competent ones and several that were just disasters.

[BoyGenius]

Those men who cite "competence" know women aren't competent to lead men in combat. The DoD has the data that shows females in combat are a liability. Again, parroting the feminist trope that women can do anything men can do is silly nonsense and dangerous.

[K9Buck]

Those men who cite "competence" know women aren't competent to lead men in combat. The DoD has the data that shows females in combat are a liability. Again, parroting the feminist trope that women can do anything men can do is silly nonsense and dangerous.

I agree, but there are exceptions.

[K9Buck]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

This female sniper was credited with 309 kills during WW 2.

[BoyGenius]

Those men who cite "competence" know women aren't competent to lead men in combat. The DoD has the data that shows females in combat are a liability. Again, parroting the feminist trope that women can do anything men can do is silly nonsense and dangerous.

I agree, but there are exceptions.

We aren't talking about an office environment where men aren't allowed to be men. Once a female experiences the primal aggression that comes with direct combat, even in training, they cannot lead. Men are men. Women are not men.

[Syncro]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

This female sniper was credited with 309 kills during WW 2.

Trying to compare a 1940s Soviet woman to a modern day American woman is like comparing apples to T bone steaks...they have absolute nothing in common aside from sharing a singular characteristic

Do better.

[K9Buck]

Saying that ALL women, without exception, are INCAPABLE of performing well in combat is akin to saying that ALL men, without exception, will perform well in combat.