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One of America's most segregated cities, there's unequal violence and unequal justice
#73
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:25 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 09:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 08:40 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: So you believe there is a genetic component? Somehow, low or high IQ,  there is something built-in to blacks that causes this behavior, that isn't in other races?

There is clearly something more there than "socio-economic" issues that causes all of this behavior.  You have to be at flat Earth level stupidity to deny that. 

You say that because you have no idea how difficult it is to change culture and how much your environment impacts behavior.  You, BoyGenius and others live the lie that we call control our choices..  You're all wrong.  The real "flat earth" mentality is believing that there's a gene that causes these behaviors.  Really think about how ridiculous that sounds,  ESPECIALLY when people like you believe that HOMOSEXUALITY is a choice.  

We have tried to improve their environment, their education, and their financial situation to civilize them and all we did was enable more dysfunction by subsidizing the dysfunction.

Again, you have no idea how difficult it is to change culture.

Black "culture" and the violence and dysfunction associated with it is pretty consistent throughout the world.  It isn't just the USA that has black violence and poverty issues.  Decades and unlimited amounts of money have been spent trying to change it.  At some point, rational people have to conclude that the problem is not environment and external issues.  Time to stop blaming whitey and get to the real issues.

So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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#74
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:25 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 09:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: There is clearly something more there than "socio-economic" issues that causes all of this behavior.  You have to be at flat Earth level stupidity to deny that. 

You say that because you have no idea how difficult it is to change culture and how much your environment impacts behavior.  You, BoyGenius and others live the lie that we call control our choices..  You're all wrong.  The real "flat earth" mentality is believing that there's a gene that causes these behaviors.  Really think about how ridiculous that sounds,  ESPECIALLY when people like you believe that HOMOSEXUALITY is a choice.  

We have tried to improve their environment, their education, and their financial situation to civilize them and all we did was enable more dysfunction by subsidizing the dysfunction.

Again, you have no idea how difficult it is to change culture.

Black "culture" and the violence and dysfunction associated with it is pretty consistent throughout the world.  It isn't just the USA that has black violence and poverty issues.  Decades and unlimited amounts of money have been spent trying to change it.  At some point, rational people have to conclude that the problem is not environment and external issues.  Time to stop blaming whitey and get to the real issues.

So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
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#75
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Black "culture" and the violence and dysfunction associated with it is pretty consistent throughout the world.  It isn't just the USA that has black violence and poverty issues.  Decades and unlimited amounts of money have been spent trying to change it.  At some point, rational people have to conclude that the problem is not environment and external issues.  Time to stop blaming whitey and get to the real issues.

So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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#76
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Black "culture" and the violence and dysfunction associated with it is pretty consistent throughout the world.  It isn't just the USA that has black violence and poverty issues.  Decades and unlimited amounts of money have been spent trying to change it.  At some point, rational people have to conclude that the problem is not environment and external issues.  Time to stop blaming whitey and get to the real issues.

So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]
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#77
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

So now you have hi jacked and diverted the discussion.  I am all for defunding out of wedlock births for everyone, not just blacks.  Why bring it up?  That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction.  Because of a larger population alone, there are possibly more white than black out of wedlock births but they don't result in the same problems.  Every city has a black ghetto of violence, crime and misery.  There are no such white ghettos.  You need to stay focused instead of trying to find moral equivalents.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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#78
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:36 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: So, I assume you believe that white people don't have whatever gene it is that makes black people have lots of kids?
I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

Feminism duped broads into being whores. The same broads think it's cool to be riding the 'C' carousal while little Timmy is in the other room playing with matches. Of course, out of wedlock birth rates will rise.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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#79
(09-12-2019, 11:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I didn't say there was a specific gene.  I said I think its a combination of factors, lower IQ, being one of them that works in combination with others.  Obviously there is something within a high percentage of blacks that causes them to act impulsively, perhaps on just emotion, and without concern about the consequences of their actions.  Many of them steal and don't even seem to know it's wrong to do so.  They kill each other regularly over literally nothing and think nothing about unrestrained sexual activity that produces children that they don't want to take care of.  Do those things happen in other races?  Sure, but nowhere nearly as much and it's not considered desirable or normal.  You want to keep believing all that is because of slavery or segregation or colonialism, go right ahead.

So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

So now you have hi jacked and diverted the discussion.  I am all for defunding out of wedlock births for everyone, not just blacks.  Why bring it up?  That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction.  Because of a larger population alone, there are possibly more white than black out of wedlock births but they don't result in the same problems.  Every city has a black ghetto of violence, crime and misery.  There are no such white ghettos.  You need to stay focused instead of trying to find moral equivalents.

That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction. 

If out of wedlock births is tied to race, why isn't the White line remaining horizontal?
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#80
Quote:If out of wedlock births is tied to race, why isn't the White line remaining horizontal?


I'd say white broads being horizontal is the main reason for more births.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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#81
(09-12-2019, 11:39 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

So now you have hi jacked and diverted the discussion.  I am all for defunding out of wedlock births for everyone, not just blacks.  Why bring it up?  That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction.  Because of a larger population alone, there are possibly more white than black out of wedlock births but they don't result in the same problems.  Every city has a black ghetto of violence, crime and misery.  There are no such white ghettos.  You need to stay focused instead of trying to find moral equivalents.

That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction. 

If out of wedlock births is tied to race, why isn't the White line remaining horizontal?

Try reading the entire sentence and in the context of the entire paragraph.  Blacks have the highest rates of out of wedlock births AND those births result in more problems for society.  Whites may have more in total but that is a function of there being 5 times as many white people.  Is that too much for you to comprehend?  Your act is boring and old.  Or perhaps you really are a sociology major and thinking is not your strength.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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#82
(09-12-2019, 11:39 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 10:59 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: So, if it's not genetic, then was is it that's inherently "in them"?  What is it that is, by default, part of who they are, from the moment of conception, that contributes to their behavior?
I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

So now you have hi jacked and diverted the discussion.  I am all for defunding out of wedlock births for everyone, not just blacks.  Why bring it up?  That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction.  Because of a larger population alone, there are possibly more white than black out of wedlock births but they don't result in the same problems.  Every city has a black ghetto of violence, crime and misery.  There are no such white ghettos.  You need to stay focused instead of trying to find moral equivalents.

That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction. 

If out of wedlock births is tied to race, why isn't the White line remaining horizontal?

White trash finally caught on and learned the game on how to get paid.
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#83
(09-12-2019, 11:50 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:39 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:24 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:18 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(09-12-2019, 11:03 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I didn't say it wasn't genetic.  The problem with you is you won't acknowledge the problem and the need to find solutions that protect society.  Why those problems exist is not nearly as important as you want to make it.  If blacks create more out of wedlock babies because we are funding it then we need to stop funding it.  If young black males kill or commit crimes indiscriminately then they need to be separated from civilized society.  Why they do it doesn't really matter.

I agree that we shouldn't reward people for having kids (welfare).  We also shouldn't have tax credits for kids.  And I have no problem punishing people, of any color, for killing other people.  But, your assertion that it's "part of who they are" is the problem.  If it's just part of who they are, and not a cultural (within their race or larger), then you wouldn't see these lines moving in tandem:

[Image: Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-10.34.52-AM.png]

So now you have hi jacked and diverted the discussion.  I am all for defunding out of wedlock births for everyone, not just blacks.  Why bring it up?  That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction.  Because of a larger population alone, there are possibly more white than black out of wedlock births but they don't result in the same problems.  Every city has a black ghetto of violence, crime and misery.  There are no such white ghettos.  You need to stay focused instead of trying to find moral equivalents.

That doesn't change the fact that blacks far and away have more out of wedlock births and that result in more problems and dysfunction. 

If out of wedlock births is tied to race, why isn't the White line remaining horizontal?

Try reading the entire sentence and in the context of the entire paragraph.  Blacks have the highest rates of out of wedlock births AND those births result in more problems for society.  Whites may have more in total but that is a function of there being 5 times as many white people.  Is that too much for you to comprehend?  Your act is boring and old.  Or perhaps you really are a sociology major and thinking is not your strength.

You're ignoring the main point.  If there is something inherent (genetic/nature) in blacks that causes, for example, extremely high out of wedlock children birth rates, then there would have to be something in whites that causes them to not have out of wedlock births.  If those two things are true, and we agree that genetics/nature is not contagious/transferable, then there is NO reason for white out of wedlock child births to increase, nor is there reason for black rates to increase.
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#84
(09-11-2019, 06:35 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: Let's consolidate into one post:


Hightop77:  You say that blacks are how the are because, that's just how blacks people are.  That implies that it's something built-in to their race.  If that's the case, and their behavior isn't cultural or the result of their environment, then how are they personally responsible?  Would you hold an autistic person responsible for their autistic behavior?


BoyGenius:  Since you don't want to answer my question, I'll just assume that you, like every other person who has ever lived, has done something that you knew was something you wouldn't want to do, and you regretted it afterward.  So, if we all CHOOSE what we do, and we are in control of ourselves, then why would you ever do something that you are opposed to doing?

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