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zigbeeMLB Playoff Thread
#31
(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Reds didn't have a single starting pitcher last year with an ERA under 4.30.  This year they had 4 of them with their starting core at 2.87, 3.40, and 3.89.  Bell was so bad, so bad.
And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks.  
where is riggleman  now?

If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me.  I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew.  If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it.
No one is satisfied at all.  You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you.  Where is Riggleman managing right now?

I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year.  I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
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#32
(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: And front office brought them in and bell won more.  Thanks.  
where is riggleman  now?

If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me.  I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew.  If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it.
No one is satisfied at all.  You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you.  Where is Riggleman managing right now?

I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year.  I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.

Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
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#33
(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 10:53 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: If you Reds fans are happy with the product, that works for me.  I watch the Reds because all their games are on here and I like the broadcasting crew.  If you guys are satisfied being loooooosers, then have at it.
No one is satisfied at all.  You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you.  Where is Riggleman managing right now?

I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year.  I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.

Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.
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#34
Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?
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#35
(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:21 AM)zigbee Wrote: No one is satisfied at all.  You don't win it all with players hurt and so forth the next year in the least but Bell did better than Riggleman....which is my question to you.  Where is Riggleman managing right now?

I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year.  I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.

Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.

Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
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#36
(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I didn't say Riggleman is managing anywhere and I didn't even say he was the best option for the Reds this year.  I did say or at least strongly imply that retaining Riggleman would have been a better option than hiring Bell and he would have won more games for sure.
Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.

Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.

Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
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#37
(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: Can't see it at all.  Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.

Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.

Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
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#38
(09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?

Good question. The Reds and Playoffs should never be mentioned together.


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#39
(09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Still better than Bell.  No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games.
He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.

Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.   Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4.  Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.   That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.   HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?   Nowhere because he's washed up.   In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good.  LOL
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#40
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?

Good question. The Reds and Playoffs should never be mentioned together.


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#41
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that.  He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well.  Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too.  No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.   Teams are looking toward younger men.

Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.   Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4.  Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.   That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.   HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?   Nowhere because he's washed up.   In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good.  LOL

I think the numbers speak for themselves.  Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team.  He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today.  End of story.
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#42
(09-30-2019, 12:46 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right?  Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman.  Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch.  Could Bell have done that?  No rational person would say so.
Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.   Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4.  Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.   That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.   HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?   Nowhere because he's washed up.   In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good.  LOL

I think the numbers speak for themselves.  Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team.  He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today.  End of story.
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#43
(09-30-2019, 12:53 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:46 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure.
Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.   Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4.  Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.   That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.   HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?   Nowhere because he's washed up.   In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good.  LOL

I think the numbers speak for themselves.  Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team.  He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today.  End of story.
Where is he working again?

Riggleman wasn't managing when he replaced Price so according to your logic, Price was better.
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#44
(09-30-2019, 12:35 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?

Good question. The Reds and Playoffs should never be mentioned together.


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#45
(09-30-2019, 12:59 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:35 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?

Good question. The Reds and Playoffs should never be mentioned together.


We get it....look at me...

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