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(09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: Can't see it at all. Riggleman is washed up and no one wants him.
Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games. He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure. Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did.
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(09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?
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(09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:31 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Still better than Bell. No one wants him either and he has no accomplishments at all as a manager other than getting thrown out of games. He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure. Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did. He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.  Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4. Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.  That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.  HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman.... who is Riggleman managing right now?  Nowhere because he's washed up.  In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good. LOL
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(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?
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(09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:37 AM)zigbee Wrote: He's been apart of many teams and is a young guy as first year manager so your opinion of him is just that. He won more than Riggleman so there's that so to speak as well. Reds wanted Bell as well and he interviewed with other clubs, too. No one hired Price to manage either and I doubt Hurdle or Maddon gets a manager job this winter.  Teams are looking toward younger men.
Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure. Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did. He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.  Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4. Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.  That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.  HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?  Nowhere because he's washed up.  In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good. LOL
I think the numbers speak for themselves. Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team. He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today. End of story.
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(09-30-2019, 12:46 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:43 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Saying Bell won more games than Riggleman because Riggleman managed fewer games is a joke, right? Even with a much better roster and infinitely better starting pitching, Bell won at about the same rate as Riggleman. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire in Cinti that started 3-15 and immediately turned them into a competitive team that was fun to watch. Could Bell have done that? No rational person would say so. Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure. Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did. He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.  Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4. Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.  That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.  HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?  Nowhere because he's washed up.  In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good. LOL
I think the numbers speak for themselves. Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team. He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today. End of story. Where is he working again?
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(09-30-2019, 12:53 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:46 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:09 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:04 PM)zigbee Wrote: Riggleman took over a dumpster fire and Bell didn't??? LOL , ok, sure. Bell in no way shape or form took over the kind of disaster that Riggleman did. He took over a team sans Gennett and Schebler and Peraza didn't hit near what they did last year.  Iglesias blew 12 games and lost 4. Hernandez and Hughes were dismissed or traded and Peralta was let go.  That's a dumpster fire...add Mahle losing 12 games.  HUGE fire and he won more games than Riggleman....who is Riggleman managing right now?  Nowhere because he's washed up.  In fact no team wanted him after Washington let him go and Reds hired him for AAA Louisville he was so good. LOL
I think the numbers speak for themselves. Riggleman took over a 3-15 train wreck and immediately improved the team. He will be a better manager when he's 85 years old than Bell is today. End of story. Where is he working again?
Riggleman wasn't managing when he replaced Price so according to your logic, Price was better.
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(09-30-2019, 12:35 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?
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(09-30-2019, 12:59 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:35 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 12:29 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: (09-30-2019, 11:39 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Is this a playoff thread or another Reds thread?
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(09-30-2019, 01:58 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: Poor Reds...
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(09-30-2019, 02:33 PM)zigbee Wrote: (09-30-2019, 01:58 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: Poor Reds...
Maybe<---BIG maybe next season. Ouch, oh God, that hurt...won't ever recover from that post....oh, MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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