Hong Kong Protests...

[Brutus Buckeye]

[cincydawg]

Is the NBA still popular in the US?  I have not paid them any attention in decades.  I gather they are not doing badly on attendance and TV revenue.

[jmesser1982]

Is the NBA still popular in the US?  I have not paid them any attention in decades.  I gather they are not doing badly on attendance and TV revenue.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver has received a five-year contract extension, a reward for accomplishments that include rapid growth in the value of franchises and attendance records around the league being set annually.

Board of Governors chairman Larry Tanenbaum of the Toronto Raptors announced the deal, one that keeps Silver under contract through the 2024 NBA Finals. Financial terms were not disclosed.
Silver, 56, led a smooth series of negotiations with the National Basketball Players Association on the way to a new collective bargaining agreement in 2016 -- one where salaries around the league soared thanks to a $24.1 billion, nine-year television and media rights deal that he helped strike with Disney and Turner Sports two years earlier.

[color=#48494a]Franchise values of the 30 NBA clubs have risen fivefold, from an estimated $12 billion when Silver took over to $60 billion now. This was also the fourth consecutive season where the league set an all-time attendance record, with 22.1 million fans attending games in 2017-18.

[url=https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23928137/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-gets-5-year-extension]https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23928137/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-gets-5-year-extension

But if he can hit all targets and push his annual take to $40 million per year, his total compensation as commissioner could approach $500 million over 18 years by the end of his current deal in 2023.

[Hightop77]

Concentration camps for muslims is the antithesis of a humanitarian attrocity.

I appreciate the consistency. 

This whole thing is humorous. All those anti-woke culture folks now care deeply for Muslims.

Link?

[Erhino]

Concentration camps for muslims is the antithesis of a humanitarian attrocity.

I appreciate the consistency. 

This whole thing is humorous. All those anti-woke culture folks now care deeply for Muslims.

Link?

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[ScarletHayes]

Concentration camps for muslims is the antithesis of a humanitarian attrocity.

I appreciate the consistency. 

This whole thing is humorous. All those anti-woke culture folks now care deeply for Muslims. Curry has a perfect response that either side probably should say. Until Fox blew their dog whistle none of the message board and social media experts on China knew what, where, on what was going on in ZingZang, or gave a crap about Muslims. They donâ€t GAS about Hong Kong or China, just its available to be used as a cudgel against woke folks.

For me, it does cause a bit of a circular firing squad as there are enough idiots in wokedom and given the current cancel culture the NBA will prolly hurt NBA income from both sides, China and US. Fringe right and left holding hands in making the US a little worse off. Money coming to US from China not in the US economy so it is a net bad for US.

I am guessing there are six pages of worthless gotcha posts as I didnâ€t read.

I wouldn't say dog whistle.  I'd say they informed Americans (admittedly not in a vacuum).  As I admit to not being very well informed about what the hell goes on in China, or the price of tea there for that matter.  If you polled Americans, right and left, I'd bet a very tiny segment would be for Muslim internment without due process.  Though I admittedly was right after 9-11.  I justified it by referencing FDR, plus I admittedly knew very little about the American Muslim population.  Let's just say I've evolved on the matter and leave it at that.  People say and do some stupid ***** over the course of their lives.    

Alright, back on topic.  For me, personally, the dog whistles are:  China, police state, social credits, communism, etc...  Who they have locked up says more about the far left than it does my white bread azz here in the midwest.  Trump imposes a travel ban on selected nations (unstable terror breeding grounds) and the American left flips the #### out.  Meanwhile in Hong Kong and mainland China you have those that stood with Kapernick now standing with China.  You can't make this ***** up.  You really can't.  

Yes, this is a political weapon of opportunity for Fox to rile up its viewership.  They (Fox) likely saw it and pounced.

[Hightop77]

Concentration camps for muslims is the antithesis of a humanitarian attrocity.

I appreciate the consistency. 

This whole thing is humorous. All those anti-woke culture folks now care deeply for Muslims.

Link?

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I just assumed any reference to Muslims being segregated and detained was presented as a positive which makes more sense.

[ScarletHayes]

I just assumed any reference to Muslims being segregated and detained was presented as a positive which makes more sense.

This is an interesting discussion topic:  At what point does the idea of due process become a naive position?  Meaning if you have a population known for violence against the general public, and violence from this group just continues to escalate...  when does due process become a silly notion?  i.e. is there a tipping point where you have to be proactive as a matter of survival?  We're obviously not at that point in America.  Heck, even Israel has yet to adopt that position.  That says a lot about them.  Tip of the cap to Israel on that front.  Though I'm doubting woke culture will credit them any time soon.  

At what point do traditional American values clash with reality?  Food for thought.

[cincydawg]

Our traveling neighbor was recently in western China, an area where few tourist ever go.  He passed through en route to Pakistan (another place tourists rarely go).

He said travel became progressively more difficult as he went west, there were many more police checks for documents.  After the train ended, he got on a bus for Pakistan and it was the same thing, very frequent inspections.  His Chinese companion told him it was because the Ouigurs are populous in that region and they are heavily suppressed with many in camps.  He said he could communicate with the Quigurs he encountered in Turkish, the languages are closely related apparently.

He said once they entered northern Pakistan, it was very easy to get about.  He has been to interesting places few of us would ever think to visit.

[stxbuck]

The NBA is complicit: Did you know the NBA has a training center in Xinjiang, where Muslim minorities are being held in concentration camps?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/1...ion-camps/

Why Is the NBA in Xinjiang? The league is running a training center in the middle of one of the worldâ€s worst humanitarian atrocities.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018...ities.html

But I thought all the woke boys in the NBA were opposed to the prison industrial complex. This issue isnâ€t going away and now South Park is going to have the NBA on blast for the near future. As far as US issues go, the attitude is “let the spoiled idiots run their mouths on peripheral things-occasionally dumbazz cops and tranny bathrooms”. Geo-politics and Orwellian totalitarianism are above Steph and LeBrons intellectual capacity.

[stxbuck]

Concentration camps for muslims is the antithesis of a humanitarian attrocity.

I appreciate the consistency. 

This whole thing is humorous. All those anti-woke culture folks now care deeply for Muslims. Curry has a perfect response that either side probably should say. Until Fox blew their dog whistle none of the message board and social media experts on China knew what, where, on what was going on in ZingZang, or gave a crap about Muslims. They donâ€t GAS about Hong Kong or China, just its available to be used as a cudgel against woke folks.

For me, it does cause a bit of a circular firing squad as there are enough idiots in wokedom and given the current cancel culture the NBA will prolly hurt NBA income from both sides, China and US. Fringe right and left holding hands in making the US a little worse off. Money coming to US from China not in the US economy so it is a net bad for US.

I am guessing there are six pages of worthless gotcha posts as I didnâ€t read.

Hong Kong and the Uighur situation are different aspects of totalitarianism. Prior to itâ€s absorption into China, Hong. Kong was like Singapore- one of the best examples of free markets and classical liberal values in the entire world. If you want to reduce this situation to lulz at woke morons, you are as bad as the NBA tools. The protestors in Hong Kong have been waving American flags in the perhaps naive belief that America actually gives a ***** about civil liberties and freedom of speech and true democratic norms in other parts of the world.

[stxbuck]

I just assumed any reference to Muslims being segregated and detained was presented as a positive which makes more sense.

This is an interesting discussion topic:  At what point does the idea of due process become a naive position?  Meaning if you have a population known for violence against the general public, and violence from this group just continues to escalate...  when does due process become a silly notion?  i.e. is there a tipping point where you have to be proactive as a matter of survival?  We're obviously not at that point in America.  Heck, even Israel has yet to adopt that position.  That says a lot about them.  Tip of the cap to Israel on that front.  Though I'm doubting woke culture will credit them any time soon.  

At what point do traditional American values clash with reality?  Food for thought.

The situation of the Uighur is far more analogous to blacks in Arkansas circa 1910 than it is to contemporary ISIS psychos in the ME or Europe. The Uighur are a racial minority in China and if there is one thing the Chinese government hates, it is non-Han Chinese ethnic groups living in China. Uighur are not allowed access to higher education and are not allowed to travel/move about China, in addition to the million Uighurs in “re-education camps”. China treats Uighurs like HT wishes black folk were treated in the USA.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Is NBA "politics" to simply give lip service to black issues? I know that there was the whole thing about White liberals being able to use the wrong commode in NC, but mostly just appeasing their black players.

[Hightop77]

Is NBA "politics" to simply give lip service to black issues? I know that there was the whole thing about White liberals being able to use the wrong commode in NC, but mostly just appeasing their black players.

Blacks vote 90% Democrat and are easily swayed by Leftist propaganda to support Lefty nonsense like the LGBT bathroom issue.  Also remember that Obama was in the middle of that issue so that is another reason the NBA got involved as part of the black player appeasement.  But of course, Pitch assured us the NBA is just a business and shuns politics.

[BoyGenius]

Our traveling neighbor was recently in western China, an area where few tourist ever go.  He passed through en route to Pakistan (another place tourists rarely go).

He said travel became progressively more difficult as he went west, there were many more police checks for documents.  After the train ended, he got on a bus for Pakistan and it was the same thing, very frequent inspections.  His Chinese companion told him it was because the Ouigurs are populous in that region and they are heavily suppressed with many in camps.  He said he could communicate with the Quigurs he encountered in Turkish, the languages are closely related apparently.

He said once they entered northern Pakistan, it was very easy to get about.  He has been to interesting places few of us would ever think to visit.

I think you mean Uyghurs, not Quigurs.